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Nov 21, 2003 22:08 # 17139

acid_reign * posts about...

People memorising program codes

One thing that really bugs me, is when people put down program codes to memory.

Maybe this might surprise some people and you'd think i'm kidding, but i'm not. For the past three years in university i've been with people who actually even rote down the variables in a program. Can you beat that. I'm not talking of 50 lines of code here. I've seen people rote down an entire basic assembler code (say 300 lines maybe; the simpler ones) or a SQL simulator code.

The 'amazing' part is that these people at the time of a practical examination actually code it exactly the same way. However they're in deep sh&^ when it doesn't run, but that's a different issue.

The issue here is HOW CAN YOU ROTE CODES. These people are supposed to be the best 'techies' around ( i'm in India).

I wonder what's going to happen to them when they get out of university next year.

NI

Nov 22, 2003 02:31 # 17146

ginsterbusch *** replies...

Re: People memorising program codes

Please, what do you mean by the word called 'rote' ???
do you mean by any chance something like 'remember'?
- because babelfish meant it stood for something like 'not only being able to remember it but when even being able to rattle it down while actually sleeping' ...

but still, i dont see where the problem is - but why should ANYONE have to remember some lumpish lines of code, anyway? when i'm entirely through with planning how to hack a program, I normally jolt it down in a matter of hours, in about 90% of cases working perfectly - but this is just experience, a matter of doing, trial-and-error, and learning of your mistakes ...

cu, w0lf.

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Nov 22, 2003 03:11 # 17147

majic *** throws in his two cents...

Re: People memorising program codes

Please, what do you mean by the word called 'rote' ???

I believe 'rote' = wrote or write

Nov 22, 2003 04:51 # 17154

MelMel *** replies...

The concise maqurie dictionary...

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The consice macquarie dictionary defines rote to be "in a mechanical way without thought of the meaning"

rote is a method of learning. a mostly useless one, but a method nonetheless.
-Mel

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Nov 22, 2003 05:24 # 17156

majic *** wants to note...

Re: The concise maqurie dictionary...

The consice macquarie dictionary defines rote to be "in a mechanical way without thought of the meaning"

Yes but when its used in a sentence it makes the writer look like he does not speak english as a native language. What a terrible word. It just doesn't really sound all that great. And since I did not know it was an actual real word I got the immediate impression that he meant 'write' or 'wrote'. Maybe I should be spending more time on dictionary.com.

Nov 22, 2003 10:07 # 17159

null *** replies...

Re: The concise maqurie dictionary...

Yes but when its used in a sentence it makes the writer look like he does not speak english as a native language.

You don't say.

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Nov 22, 2003 10:47 # 17161

acid_reign * replies...

No offence meant

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Yes but when its used in a sentence it makes the writer look like he does not speak english as a native language

No offence meant. I follow the British english pattern so I don't know if there is such a word in the American vocabulary.

What a terrible word. It just doesn't really sound all that great

This would make such a nice topic. "Which words are terrible and don't sound great."

I'd say Microsoft Windows is one on my list.

Oh and yes 'rote' meant 'rote' - putting down things to memory.
I was getting tired of using the word 'memorising' all the time so I thought i'd use something different.

NI

Nov 22, 2003 14:52 # 17165

ginsterbusch *** smiles...

Re: No offence meant

I was getting tired of using the word 'memorising' all the time so I thought i'd use something different.

maybe too different for the rest of us ;)
remember: this message board aint used by UK people only ;)
- i'd even go as far to say: people from angelland i can count with my bare hands (damn, whats the darn translation of this speaking to english?).

yours, bG.

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Nov 26, 2003 03:27 # 17303

zen *** replies...

Re: Concision

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Programming by rote
It took a bit, but I knew what rote was so I caught on in due time. I told the author that I thought he use was clever. Don't think it was exactly intended that way, but so nonetheless.

The cue was context. One paying attention to what was actually written, rather than what is EXPECTED to be found leads one to the fact is that it was consistently used over the body of text. Therfore it was intentional. Therefore it was excellent...and made you think.

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Nov 22, 2003 20:06 # 17179

Sigma_7 *** replies...

Re: People memorising program codes

It's possible - writing 300 lines of code, although is a bit of a stretch, is technically possible. I also remember pulling this off at one time, probably using QBasic to write a program capable of writing a program to solve magic square (although that was technically "on the fly" rather than memorized.)

However, memorizing 300 lines is kind of pointless - memorizing 300 lines of algorithms is a bit more efficient.


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