Reading What Sucks

Mar 23, 2008 16:04 # 45606

harold_maude *** posts about...

At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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I've been reading old posts. Trying to get back to the beginning of this place, it's been this crazy journey of voices and immages and people's thoughts.
A quilt of humanity clothed in technology.

I read Martin's post about all good things comming to an end...where are you Martin? Where is your voice that can rise above the sea of crap you talked about.
Where are the rest of the authors of ideas that have passed through this place?
So what if you don't write something magnificant, so what...we are who we are, our world is what we bring here.

Face it we live in a world that is plugged into any number of boxes that you can think of.
The internet, the tube, the latest fad, the latest diet...and maybe the latest prank, see how far we can stretch a body before something stupid really happens...movies that have the same tired theme just dressed up in the latest fashion.

This is print here folks. We are the reporters of our world, and the events and people in our world.
Some of us will have about as much chance as a frog in a blender to get to ever see in the real with our eyes, your world...so paint it for me will ya?
I wanna see your world.

So scream and dance and get your brains un-fogged, and start writing for any who will pass by.

So here I am, standing on this hill looking for the people who say suff that makes me think about more...
LOOKING for you the writers of this place.

I was away for a bit over two years. And when I finally got back on the net, this was the first place I came to...and what did I find?
A nearly silent place. A place filled with words written for each other, the books of dreams and hopes, loves, losses, rants, political stances and anything else you wanna mention...volumes of words.

This is the land of dreams, views into worlds from behind someone else's eyes.

So why am I left with just things you said back then?
Some have taken a break because of what ever reason.
Some have left because this place became the world for them and the real world out side became little more than just something you have daily and work in daily but the want for physical conversation was enough to make them stop speaking here....

This place and others that may exist out there are our words, a part of humanity that is leaving recorded history, so maybe someone in some future place will stumble on the archives of this place and wonder why we let it go the way of everything else that died that was good....

We are writing the history of the future readers of the world.
So again I ask WHERE ARE YOU....calling into the distance, I hope you hear me and pick up and understand that you make my world bigger because you have something to say.

I hope so. In the mean time, I'm here, reading more from people who haven't written here in so long that dust is collecting in their room now.

Mar 25, 2008 20:49 # 45607

tull * smiles...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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In fact it is really crazy. My last logon on this page was maybe four years ago. This evening I went online in ICQ (also after a few years without using ICQ) and saw a user from netalive online. So I came back to have a look. And then I saw your post, written two days ago.

A few posts I've seen are from people from really from the beginning. But I have to ask myself, why I didn't log in a few years. My guess is, that many people through this site with the help of other people found how to live a life outside, outside of the computer world, outside of the online world. Some may refer it as they live the "real" life.

In my experience it is that I still enjoy sitting in front of the computer, okay, that's my job as geek. But the priorities of things changed. So I've learned that people, nature and god are much more valueable and precious than I thought before.

So now it is very interesting for me to came back and see this place. Warm memories are rising in my mind. The first NAO user meeting, ...

Thanks for your post!

Mar 26, 2008 12:32 # 45608

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Yes, I understand having a life off the computer as well.
It's a strange thing about being gone and then comming back, I've spent time reading journals on here and posts in the forums and I miss reading what people have to say.

The news papers are filled with either bad news or news that isn't really news but fashion blurbs about who's doing what to who kind of thing.
Surface things that don't mean anything.

What I love about reading here and writing here is that there is acutally subsance to what I'm reading.

I have a life outside of here, but like any full life, reading good authors works is a part of that.
So after reading and reading and not seeing much of anything new, I felt the need to stand on some hill, and calling out to see if anyone was there.
Thankyou for answering.

Mar 26, 2008 13:43 # 45609

ginsterbusch *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

So again I ask WHERE ARE YOU...

Well, I've been here?!? Doing much more reading than talking these days. I dont have much to talk about, too.

Stuff I intensively think about happens to appear in one of my weblogs, esp. since I'm able to write it in my mother tongue and not have to think so much how to translate this or that phrase.

cu, w0lf.

beards are cool. every villain has one!

This post was edited by ginsterbusch on Mar 26, 2008.

Mar 27, 2008 00:23 # 45616

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Sorry didn't mean to yell so loud...

I know things change, it's the nature of the way things are. And yes I do know you've been working on your site and translating from German to english takes it's toll, translations do that, so again I appoligize for yelling so loud.

Apr 14, 2008 02:57 # 45711

majic *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Yo, I'm still around... For some reason I seem to forget about NAO and check it like once every month or so. I need to do better... I just haven't had anything to write about in like a year, I suck bad!!!!

Apr 14, 2008 03:22 # 45712

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Hey there:)
Sometimes it seems to go that way. I'm writing still because I need to keep things flowing so that the wall I hit a while ago doesn't cemement me there.

Mar 27, 2008 04:55 # 45617

Bunk *** throws in his two cents...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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I always liked your writing, Wendy. :) And I still do. I will put things in, now and then, when I can.

If I had the patience, the balance, the time. I don't ration time well. I forget it. When I do best is when time has no meaning to me. I forget it, dive head first into the little thing that I discover a passion for.

The problem is, time catches up with me.

And now, I must return to writing my essay on the Tibetan independence movement, which was due yesterday morning. With luck, it will be done by the time the sun rises...

"History is more or less bunk." - Henry Ford

Mar 27, 2008 08:19 # 45619

null throws in his two cents...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

So every time I log in I plan to reply here, and then I can't think of anything clever that hasn't been said before.
The truth is, it's the same with most discussions these days. Stuff I used to jump at a few years ago nowadays just causes me to shrug and think, "been there, done that."
Bush is the worst president ever? Sure he is, no further discussion needed cause it's bloody obvious, and those who disagree should read some of the past 843 discussions on Bush we've had here. Windows vs. Linux? It's all a matter of taste and personal preferences. The meaning of life? I've pondered this question enough for the time being and am quite content with where I am. Poetry? The closest thing to poetry I've ever written is the "Fisherman's Friend in my butt" haiku corner, so let's not go there. That leaves me with my journal and the occasional recipe to post in the Food forum.
I think it gets harder to discuss things with time, because the longer we talk about stuff here, the more likely it is that a similar (or the same) discussion already exists somewhere in the archives of this site, and the harder it gets to find new stuff we haven't already talked about. Our own success is holding us back, so to speak.

Having said that, I love to talk about new stuff!

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

This post was edited by null on Mar 27, 2008.

Mar 27, 2008 12:29 # 45620

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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I feel really shitty now. I'm sorry that I wrote that post...does any one have a huge erraser?
It wasn't intended to make anyone feel bad at all.

This place which has so many people who have something to say has become so quite now.
Again I am really very sorry I wrote that post at all...

Mar 27, 2008 12:41 # 45622

null replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Again I am really very sorry I wrote that post at all...

Please don't. It's a good post. And it has started a good discussion. Deleting it would be a loss.

See it this way, it has caused formerly silent people to post again :-)

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Mar 28, 2008 01:08 # 45624

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Ok. I won't delete it.
Thankyou. I felt so bad that it upset people. That was the last thing on my mind when I wrote it.

Mar 28, 2008 07:49 # 45630

null replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

I don't think it upset anyone. :-)

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Mar 28, 2008 12:23 # 45632

Magnifico *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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Or maybe just shook a few people up and made them wonder why they even have Netalive in their bookmark tabs and still don't regularly go back to check up and post, like me, even though they like this place. I can't make any promises to do better, but I can definitely make the attempt.

I'll believe in anything if you'll just believe in anything

Mar 28, 2008 14:41 # 45635

MelMel *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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I feel like i've grown up here with you all. I'm incredibly close to some of you. Null in particular, my beautiful adopted big brother. I'm quite selfish here i suppose. I've always mainly contributed to my own journal here, but i'm not sorry for that. There's been some times in my life where knowing that somebody was reading has kept me going, kept my head above water until morning and that fresh day arrives. So i've contributed less because with each passing day i only get stronger. I feel very centered in life right now. I have balance and feel ready to deal with whatever the world might throw at me.

I will apologise for contributing less to the other forums here, but i often have little to say that's constructive! However, i shall try to be unconstructively present if that helps? I do love a good quip or pun...

-Mel :P

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Mar 28, 2008 22:32 # 45637

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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This all feels so strange for me. But more than anything I'm happy to see people saying something.

I felt so bad that maybe I had done a really stupid thing, I do that sometimes, but Null reasured me that it's ok.
I'm still reading, and have been reading funny stuff, I'm planning on reading everything here now. It started out to catch up, now it's become a quest to read it all.
Adding thoughts to threads that poke at me to say something.

Thank you for answering. come stand up on the hill maybe we can see more people come up here to say something.

Apr 15, 2008 08:56 # 45713

Deimos ** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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I'm around, but intermittently.

To no one elses surprise, but certainly to my own, my idiotic fifteen year old mouthpiecing is not exactly soemthing i still carry on with these days, being five years older and somewhat more experienced.

I guess like with everything else on the internet that fades slowly, life just gets in the way. I no longer have mountains of time to waste online like I did way back then. Studying for a degree is actually much harder work than not studying for exams that a trained monkey could pass.

I will write properly soon, i hope. Biting cynicism with all the sarcastic trimmings of yesteryear, too.

Sir Deimos, Beater of Ass.

Sep 12, 2008 06:40 # 46016

mudSlide_03 * replies...

Word Man

Amen big person. I've never heard truer words.

Aug 20, 2009 08:07 # 46465

forest1102 * replies...

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Many thanks to ur post. I love it.

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This post was edited by forest1102 on Aug 20, 2009.

Aug 31, 2009 10:02 # 46473

Magicdead *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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Hmm funny that i would come back after at least a year since i last checked the site, just to stumble upon this thread.

I don't really use BBS/forums anymore. When I'm in the internets, i usually just watch some shows or stumble around in the reddit.com science or technology section, or do some other reading on a multitude of subjects.

But most of my time is spent working, partying, on pokernights with friends, and since I took up photography as a hobby, that eats up a lot of my time too (and a lot of money...). Or reading philosophy, reading Senecas collected works at the moment, which will take me quite long I guess :)

I think I just find much more distractions other than browsing the net.

Though I will always remember those times spent on netalive with you guys and gals and I'll always cherish them. And it sure would be fun to catch up with you all, find out whats changed and so on.

But I do prefer my discussions to be in person nowadays, preferably on the veranda of my friend with its beautiful view of the Zurich lake whilst playing a game of Go.
I also guess that, as we become older, our views get more rooted, because they have been tried time and time again, so there ain't as much use discussing and reevaluating them as there used to be. Though not saying that you should stop challenging your views alltogether, which wouldn't be a wise descision to make.

I'll try to check in a little more often, it would be a shame if this site fell apart, but I know myself too well to make any promises ;)

But it was nice to hear that you lot are doing fine :)

[Edit]
But we could make a facebook netalive group or something like that to stay in touch. Would be somewhat easier that way, at least for me.

"The wise have always said the same things, and fools have always done the opposite"-Schopenhauer

This post was edited by Magicdead on Aug 31, 2009.

Sep 04, 2009 04:59 # 46477

jael *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

I second the facebook thing,

*insert something profound/witty/humorous here*

Nov 30, 2009 11:56 # 46627

MelMel *** replies...

Ditto!

I third it.

Look at me! I'm a prostitute robot from the future!

Apr 13, 2010 20:19 # 46747

r_pendragon *** replies...

Re: Ditto!

I would love to connect with NAO people on Facebook... I know I haven't posted here in about a zillion years, but I do often wonder how everyone is doing.

So: I am Rachel Sherman on the "Washington Grad Student '08" network, feel free to friend me (but please tell me your NAO user name so I know who you are).

I do miss this site, and hope to start posting here again.

Apr 14, 2010 06:38 # 46748

null replies...

Re: Ditto!

I'd love to join your party, but I'm gonna have to wait until Facebook stops being evil. In the meantime, hello, nice to see you!

In case anybody else is on Xing... :-)

When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.

Apr 14, 2010 21:28 # 46749

ginsterbusch *** replies...

Re: Ditto!

Except you and me, you mean? ;)

cu, w0lf.

beards are cool. every villain has one!

Sep 18, 2009 18:24 # 46503

zen *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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We all get lost in our own worlds.
some of us are trying to concern ourselves with tryng to unplug from all that dreck.
I think my quest is in learning about my inner landscape, and what's making me tick as a person, but as a par of a group. having a good group of friends makes things nice sometimes.
I mean, ultimately, aren't all those boxes, those cubes, different aspects of ourselves, our lives, that we keep seperate from the others?
I mean, ultimately all is connected. we just like to think it's not. And our lives are forever that struggle of maintaining those boxes, and the arbitrary boundries we force on things.

So scream and dance and get your brains un-fogged, and start writing for any who will pass by.

It's a de-gauss for the brain.

Once Fred Neitszche declared God is Dead, f*ck became the most important word in the English languag

Feb 01, 2010 03:12 # 46696

ghost * replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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Hoooollly WHAT!!!!

Feb 12, 2014 19:53 # 47439

random_visitor * replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Hello!

Who am I? A random visitor as my username indicates. I was searching for a simple math problem when I stumbled upon this site (well, the document for the math stuff was in some fancy URI after http://www.netalive.org).

What do I do here?
I read the first (=most recent) post, and I was shocked. 10 years. That's a long time. Although I do not know any of you, I have fallen in a kind of nostalgia. This website is different from the the modern ones. I'm not saying that the modern ones are bad - no they are definitely not! - but this one just caught my eyes.

If anyone of you is currently reading this post, I appeal to you: "please answer!".

Best Regards
A random visitor

Feb 22, 2014 00:15 # 47441

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Hello there random visitor. This site is very different indeed. During the time it was most active it was filled with discussions about many things.

They have been preserved. Enjoy your visits.

Jul 27, 2015 19:02 # 47513

tonyclark7151 * replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

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Well, I also used to be here more often in the olden days, but yes... priorities changes and now we all - old users have many different and more important things to do than sitting in netalib=ve but of course I also have many nice memories regarding this portal...

Calm, Patient but crazy person, looking for adventures.

Oct 11, 2015 09:08 # 47533

Salvial_Ten *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

I'm going to be an echo chamber and ask if anyone is still here? Do we have a way of getting in touch with eachother?! I'm thinking about chatting with Eliza.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

Oct 11, 2015 10:31 # 47537

harold_maude *** replies...

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Hey there. How are you? I've seen a journal entries now and again from a few people that used to be highly active here.

I still come and keep up my journal. Besides what this place has been, it's just about the only place that doesn't have ads all over it.

I would love to see more people start writing here again. I miss the discussions and the adventures.

Oct 11, 2015 10:36 # 47538

Salvial_Ten *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Me too. I think I finally found my writers voice again so I can interact properly. Too bad it took me so long I'm back down to only having like ten posts a day! Oh well, gotta make the best of them.

I've had a very insane past few years, and it would be way too much information for just this post to talk about. I may do a few different topics in my journal on it. The skinny is I've moved across the country, had a lot of deaths in the family, fought illness, failed out of school, found my independence, and learned how to drive in snow. Not necessarily in that order. How have you been? I've not taken much time to back read journals yet, but it is on my list.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

Oct 11, 2015 19:02 # 47539

harold_maude *** replies...

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It sounds like you've had quite an adventure. I'm glad you recovered from illness. And finding independence is amazing. No matter what the age your at is when you find it.
Failing out of school? Some of the most brilliant minds and trail blazers in history failed out of school, so your in great company.

Death does have a way of showing up after a long enough time line. If you were close to the family that went with death, then it makes it harder for them to go. If not, it still does weird stuff to you.
Either way, my condolences.

Life is that way though, an adventure. Sometimes it's through some very dark places. And sometimes it takes you out into endless fields
where the ground is littered with obstacles. Then there are times where it's clear and that's nice.
At the very least your adventures have provided you with lots of material to write about, now that you've found your writers voice again.

The last few years....lets see, I'm still in the same part of the country, (for the moment). Death was busy in my family too. The man I was with is no longer here. I went through a series of bad jobs, got black balled a couple of times and have spent the last year trying to heal all that's been broken, including trying to find my passion for art, which got smashed as well.

I have no clue as to how many posts I'm allowed per day as when I've come here to write it's due to it's the safest place I know of to speak about what I cannot anywhere else. And for so long it seemed that I was the only person left coming to this place, it got rather empty, like a huge castle filled with ghosts, I never kept track of how many posts I was allowed. I still don't know.

My journal here has become my bat cave. Things can get so crazy that it's good to have a bat cave.

It would be a lovely thing if more of those who used to write here would come back and start writing again. All the stories to share of the adventures while out and wandering.

Anyway, I'm glad you've come back to write. And I look forward to reading..:)

Oct 11, 2015 22:05 # 47543

Salvial_Ten *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Death seems to stay busy. Which is why if I can get my shit together (quite literally), I was very heavily considering going back to school to be a mortician. My condolences for the loss of your loved ones and thank you for yours on mine.

Hopefully if enough people get emails saying there are posts in the forums they love then maybe, just maybe they will start trickling back in.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

Oct 11, 2015 23:54 # 47544

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Death never goes on holiday.

A job as a mortician is a very unique job.

Oct 12, 2015 00:16 # 47545

Salvial_Ten *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

It is, I'd rather be an embalmer or work for a morgue than be a funeral director. I get very, very drained dealing with lots of strangers.

--Jami Yeah, that's gonna sting in the morning.

Oct 12, 2015 05:12 # 47546

harold_maude *** replies...

Re: At the top of my lungs..."IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE?"

Yes, strangers in large numbers or small numbers can be very draining.

Yes, a funeral director requires a person to be 'on'. An embalmer would definitely be different. Now the morgue, those usually sit somewhere in the cemetery and outside of the time of burial the number of people who come seem to be very scattered and they are focused on visiting the graves of those who have left.


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