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Mar 25, 2003 13:12 # 9672
Oh the lovers are gonna hate me for this
A long time ago a man called Nostradame (also known by his latin name as Nostradamus/Nostrodamus) He predicted a few things, wrote them down. Some of them came true.
This could be luck or incredible insight.
Either way, you remember him.
You only found out about him because someone (teacher/parent/friend) told you about him. Unless you lived in a cave all of your life and then went straight to a library and researched him. Slighlty unlikely I deduce.
Either way, you know about him because you were told. You may have done more research (good for you) and learnt a little more about him.
Someone gave you the foundations and you decided how big you wanted that building of knowledge to be. Ok, hope everyone is still with me.
Unfortunately love is the same. Oh yes I said it.
Someone told you the love symptoms. Gave you the foundations and everyone is following this idea of love.
Love letters/heartache/sleep loss/hearts/roses/kissing/sex/trust/giving....
The list goes on. As smart as you may be, or think you are. You were told about these things at a young age and sometimes you even have the naievity to think "no-one is more in love than I am, or no-one hurts as bad as I do"
If no-one told you about love. You may go through life feeling chemical things, hormonal/physical but are you seriously thinking if you deprived a child from birth of the pyschology of love, that he will grow up knowing about these things? (heartache/valentines etc?)
Its a horrible fact. But love does not exist. Its something we made up. Its a great thing don't get me wrong. But just because something is life-altering, doesn't mean its real and you should depend on it to be happy.
Now what's going to really bake your noodle is:
"I believe in love but I don't believe in God."
Is this deliberate ignorance or stupidity maximised?
Whatever you believe be happy. But unfortunately you can't argue with this fact. Its not like I wrote down an opinion is it?
This is fact.
But nevertheless real.
Love is something we made up. Bless it for it is all that we have.
Quote - Ignorance is bliss.
If it weren't for monkey's... I would of packed it in years ago
Mar 25, 2003 15:12 # 9676
But love does not exist. Its something we made up.
Well it's an abstractum, something you can't grasp, just an idea (as opposed to anything physically present). But it's definitely there.
You can watch the hormones of lovers run amok. You can experience extreme happiness with someone you love, or most infinite sadness when something bad happens to them. These are measurable things. I do not believe in love, I know that it exists, whether you see it romantically or the scientific way.
are you seriously thinking if you deprived a child from birth of the pyschology of love, that he will grow up knowing about these things? (heartache/valentines etc?)
He won't know about Valentine's (which is just a local custom anyway) and probably have psychological problems that put the whole Woody Allen anthology to shame. But the feeling of love is in our genes just as hunger or thirst, or play instinct as far as I'm concerned. You can raise a mentally ill child, but you can't change the fact that it's biologically prepared to experience love.
The existence of God is a bit more difficult to prove. There is no 'God' hormone, as there is one for love. (I for my part don't believe in God, but hey, to each his own.) As long as there isn't any proof that a god exists (or does not), religion is just a matter of belief. Joy, inner peace, fear, misery - religion can cause all these, but so do millions of other things. Love is very different from that.
Oh the lovers are gonna hate me for this
You need to come up with something way nastier to make me hate you. :-P
When life hands you a lemon, that's 40% of your RDA of vitamin C taken care of.
What do you think is the difference between love and faith if both is a matter of believing?
And how can one not believe in love if he knows it's existing. I mean everybody feels love. Sure, it's hormons and chemicals but beyond this there's something only our feelings can build and this got nothing to do with our body. Just IMHO...
I think we have to kinda forget or put away the fact that love might be just physical/chemical/hormonal. Because if I'd always be thinking "oh, that's just my hormons", then I wouldn't be able to love anymore and began to hate all the people around me. Well, maybe not that but it would be like waking up from a dream and seeing that every feeling around me is just sheer imagination and that everthing's a lie. For me, then, live wouldn't have a meaning anymore because love is the essence of life and maybe the only meaning and the aim of it.
That's what we're here for.
"Sie wollen nichts anderes. Sie wollen kämpfen! Sie sind Soldaten! Fucking Wahnsinnige!" - Noel G.
Jul 22, 2003 06:22 # 14184
You may go through life feeling chemical things, hormonal/physical but are you seriously thinking if you deprived a child from birth of the pyschology of love, that he will grow up knowing about these things? (Heartache/valentines etc?)
I think you are confusing love with romance. Romance is an aspect of love, or by itself even a kind of love. But there is more to love than intense but shallow feelings of romantic obsession and the love letters, kisses, and sex that come with them. There is commitment. There is devotion--friendship in a way that cannot be shared by the rest of the world, companionship enriched by shared experiences, shared goals, shared achievements, even shared suffering. "Love" fails because many people are such romantics that they feel when the feelings are gone, then love is gone as well. This is simply not true. Feelings come, go, and return--but true love is constant despite the feelings. Love is a decision, not a feeling. It's my decision. I don't think anyone brainwashed me to believe in it.
“To God, there is no zero. I still exist.” Scott Carey, The Incredible Shrinking Man